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kunter
04/10/2003, 02:00
Estoy pensando montar un servidor de ROMS para que se las pueda bajar todo el mundo, de todas las consolas que puedan ser emuladas por la GP32, y alguna mas si cae, peor ahora no se si es o no legal. Se q a las 48 horas hay q borrar las roms si no las tienes, peor eso el usuario q las descarga, pero el dueño del server??
Alguien me puede responder a estas dudas??
GRacias y un saludete atodos

Anarchy
04/10/2003, 02:28
Lo de las 48 horas es una treta legal que (si no me equivoco) no es cierta. Vamos, que solo puedes usar la rom si realmente dispones del juego original.

Es ilegal montar un server con cualquier tipo de soft con licencia, otra cosa es que se molesten en perseguirte por hacerlo (si pones roms de msx o de spectrum, es posible que nadie te diga ni pio)

Un saludo
Anarchy

Ecthegion
04/10/2003, 10:31
yo creia q era legal siempre q el q montase el servidor tuviese todos los juegos que ofrece originales...

dj syto
04/10/2003, 10:44
en ese caso seria legal, lo ilegal lo haria el ke las descargara y no tuviera los juegos originales.


pero bueno ke mas da? a tomar por culo XDDDD, MONTA EL SERVER HUNTER, Y YA ESTA!!!


VIVVAAAAA!!!!!

Ecthegion
04/10/2003, 10:54
pero kunter estas seguro de lo que quieres hacer?? vas a tener que invertir mucha pasta y tiempo para eso, y piensa que si no restringes la entrada de la gente un poco no solo van a descargar gente q tenga la gp32, si no otros q qieran esas roms para jugarlas en pc.

si a mi me interesase de verdad tener todas las roms de alguna consola pos me bajaria el correspondiente pack del emule y listo.

seikion
07/10/2003, 18:54
A continuación te cuelgo un texto en el que se detalla la legalidad de las roms, etc... es un poco largo y está en ingles, pero espero que te sea de utilidad.

Game Piracy: ROMs and Warez

What is "Warez"?
"Warez" is the generic term for copyrighted computer software that has been stripped of any copy protection or "cracked", and made available for distribution by software pirates.
What are ROMs?
ROM stands for "Read Only Memory", a type of computer chip that permanently stores data. In the world of game piracy, it generally referrs to the ROM(s) of a video game cartridge that have been transferred to a computer file.

Is it legal to make a copy of a game I own?
Yes. U.S. Copyright laws allow you to make one backup copy of software you own. However, that backup copy is "tied" to your original. If you sell or give away your original software, you must destroy your backup copy or package it with the orignal when you sell or give it away. Likewise, you may not sell or give away your backup copy without the original.

Is it legal to download a copy of a game I own?
No. Even if you own the original game, you are not entitled to download a copy of it. Copyright law clearly states that the only copy of software you are entitled to is the one you make yourself.

Is it legal to allow others to download my copy of the game I own?
No. Distribution of copyrighted works without permission of the creators is a violation of copyright law.

What about "homebrew" or Public Domain games?
Once a game or other software title is released into the Public Domain, it's legal to be downloaded, used, and mis-used by anyone, anytime, anywhere. However, you'll find that in practice, very few commercial games are ever released to the Public Domain.

What about the "24 hour rule" that says I can try out copies for 24 hours before deleting them?
The "24 hour rule" is a clear example of why you should never take legal advice from software pirates. There is no such rule; downloading a copy of copyrighted software not intended for distribution is always illegal, no matter how long you have it.

If a game company goes out of business, are their games free to download?
No. When a company goes out of business, more than likely their intellectual property assets (including the copyrights to all of the software they created) are going to be sold to a creditor or to a third party. For example, the rights to all of the classic Atari games (Dig Dug, Tempest, Lunar Lander) have been sold and resold countless times over the years to various companies (Time Warner, Midway, Hasbro), and are now in the hands of Infogrames, who have even revived the Atari label.

What is "abandonware", and is it legal?
Abandonware is a generic term for software titles that are no longer available for purchase from any source, usually computer games that are several years old. While many software companies turn a blind eye to their distribution at this point, it is still a technical violation of copyright to distribute or download copies of "abandoned" games.

Are emulators legal?
Generally, yes. In 1982, precedent was set in the landmark Coleco vs. Atari case where Coleco produced an Atari 2600 emulator for the ColecoVision. Even recently, Sony was unable to prevent the distribution of the PlayStation emulator "bleem!". However, there have been emulators that used copyrighted BIOS code internally; those have generally found to have been illegal.

Are mod-chips legal?
Maybe. Maybe not. The DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998) included specific language concerning attempts to disable copyright protection. Additionally, some mod-chips contain copies of the original BIOS for the console, making them obvious copyright violations. For the most part, console makers are more successful than not in shutting down mod-chip distributors and makers.

Do ROMs and Warez really hurt the video game industry?
Yes. The IDSA (a US-based trade group of game makers) has reported an estimated loss of $3.2 billion in 1998 alone. Of course, this is an estimate based on the number of copyrighted programs illegaly distributed, and not the actual loss from non-purchased software; not everyone who copies a game would buy it if they had the money. However, there is definitely an impact to the bottom line for both console makers (who collect royalties from software sales) and game developers and publishers when games that are available for sale are illegaly distributed for free.

What will happen to me if I download copyrighted games?
Probably nothing. Game makers tend to be much more concerned with the illegal distribution of their titles, not so much with the people who download them. The gains of going after individual software pirates would be far outweighed by the legal cost and bad publicity stemming from doing so. Still, you should bear in mind that you are violating the law, and there are penalties for doing so should the companies in question decide to take action.

What will happen to me if I distribute copies of copyrighted games?
Posting illegal copies of games on a web site for download could result in the loss of the web site, and maybe even your Internet conncetion; most ISPs have specific language prohibiting this. For larger-scale operations, the IDSA or your local trade groups could become involved; once you reach a certain level of distribution, the penalties can even include jail time.


Information in this section was sourced from the Jargon File, the IDSA, TechWeb, and nolo.com.

WeNDaL
07/10/2003, 21:12
Vamos a ver si aclaramos de una vez por todas lo de las roms:

Todos aquellos juegos o programas, que no esten liberados por los programadores o las compañias desarroladoras siguen sujetos al copyright original.

Esto significa simplemente, que la utilización de estos programas sin una adquisición de forma legal, viola el copyright literalmente, por lo cual son ilegales en su totalidad.

Por otra parte, muchas de las roms que pupulan por la red, al ser de una antiguedad significativa y que ya no tienen importancia comercial para las compañias, estas hacen "la vista gorda", pero legalmente siguen con el copyright original.

En resumidas cuentas: Todo aquello que no sea ofrecido o liberado expresamente por los programadores o compañias es ilegal.

Simple verdad?

kunter
07/10/2003, 23:22
Total, que mientras tenga todos los originales podré poner el server de ROMs.
Preguntare a mi abogado a ver que me dice, pq no se que reglas seran aplicadas, ya que el servidor de ROMs estaria en Italia, peor las ROMs tienen el copyright "internacional" o similar.
Ya vere y os ire comentando.
Respecto a la pela, y el tiempo que me pueda llevar por eso no problem, no pienso invertir mas de 30 € y como soy diseñador y programador de webs pues eso no seria problema, ni el control a las ROMs ni nada por el estilo.
Gracias a todos por contestar y el que tenga alguna idea/sugerencia que se la apunte.

Un saludo para todos.

seikion
08/10/2003, 08:49
Que nooooooooooo!!!

Aunque tu legalmente puedes POSEER las ROMS de las cuales tengas el juego original, no puedes DISTRIBUIRLAS, ya que sería violación del Copyright.

Legal no es... ahora, tu mismo. ;P